Freemasonry and The Royal Barbados Police Force
Should Citizens Be Concerned?
January 21, 2008
Is He Or Isn�t He? And Does It Matter?
�This post examines the effect of membership in secret societies (or societies with secrets as the Freemasons prefer to be described) on law enforcement agencies.
The concern is that police who take �blood-curdling oaths� and �indulge in strange rituals� may diminish public confidence in the force. There is concern about oaths of loyalty affecting the ability of an officer to act impartially. Our previous post examines these gruesome oaths.�
� from Part Eleven (!) of Keltruth Blog�s series on the Masons.
The series is food for thought about the unseen connections between the police, the judges and the institutions of Barbados.
Check it out at Keltruth Blog (link here)
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Ian Bourne
January 21, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Many officers here are Travellers and there are some at CBC too (like Win Callender or Claude Graham) - no big shock as such, in fact, I have Grandfathers on both sides of my tree who were Worshipful Masters
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centipede
January 21, 2008 at 4:37 pm
This garbage about �free masons� is tittilating to your everyday reader who, like their ideas about religion, prefer to deal with belief rather than with factual evidence. So let the fiction roll on (both about free masons and religion) and let the masses be happy.
But on to a more relevant matter which should be of interest to the few who can think for themselves � Thompie wants to �break up the monopolies� that control the importation of food and by their exclusiveness? propell the cost of stuff making it expensive.
First, as if our new PM doesn�t know� there is NO MONOPOLY on the food import business. ANY supermarket can independently import stuff from anywhere.
The PROBLEM lies with getting stuff from the �low islands.� It has to do with transportation and reliability.
Some readers will remember the days when dozens of schooners plied the waters and brought in fruit and veg from Guyana and the islands� they came in and parked alongside the wharf and it was busy with fruit vendors unloading.
Then the �shallow draft� came into operation and for whatever reason (the scholar Dr. Belle can surely tell us) the schooners gradually disappeared and trade with the islands and Guyana ended.
Now-a-days a merchant can get on the phone and say to a distributor in Miami � send me a container of oranges � and by tomorrow morning it�s on it�s way.
You can�t make such a call to Dominica and get the same response. First there is no one reliable to call and secondly - if and when you ever will get your order, no one knows.
I can never quite understand why large Companies such as BS&T never got into the inter-island trading business.
All it needed was a reliable shipping service. All it needed was a Company with one or two ships�.
Anyhow, altho the PM�s words are not 100% accurate, let�s hope an initiative has been started and we�ll see the resumption if inter island trading.
The much talked about ferry service would augment this activity beyond measure. Certainly this seems to be something the island Governments could get together on, if the �private sector� isn�t able or willing.
I wouldn�t at all be surprised if the failure to get a ferry service going has failed so far due to Government bureaucracy.
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Tony Hall
January 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I see nothing wrong with police officers being involved in fraternities. This has been going on from time immemorial where officers have been part of the said fraternities. Prominent persons in Barbados who would have been in critical decision making positions in Barbados would have been involved and I would dare say the same applies today. No harm was done then and I don�t see any being done now. I think singling out police officers is a bit unfair.
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Bimbro
January 21, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Even before reading Keltruth�s Blog, I am convinced that ANY secret society SHOULD BE BANNED, in a democratic country. ANYTHING which is inclined to undermine the wholesomeness of Bajan society should be outlawed, and THAT VERY MUCH INCLUDES THE FREEMASONS!!!! There can be very, little or NO good purpose at all, served by secrecy!!!!
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centipede
January 21, 2008 at 4:53 pm
If I may say to Bimbro and some others� Freemasonry is NOT a Secret Society.
A Secret Society is one that is � secret � and no one knows about it.
Everybody knows where freemasons meet and you can go and stand outside and watch and see everybody who comes and goes.
Ain�t nothing secret.
Freemasonry is a PRIVATE society and it�s meetings are open to it�s members only�
Freemasons are not the only ones who have private meetings open to members only� let�s take a look at a few others�
Meetings of the government�s Cabinate.
Meetings of the Board of Statutory Corporations, businesses, clubs�
Meetings of one�s family where only �family members� may be present�
Should I continue to state the obvious or do you know what I�m saying?
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reality check
January 21, 2008 at 6:13 pm
just like the BLP, despite their professed underlying manifesto or principles, any group can be subverted and manipulated by those with dishonest intentions.
Just ask some of the people who conducted and endured the vexacious and intimidating audits of small businesses and individuals. They were sent and were proud to wear their masons ring.
Audits which should have taken a day or two took weeks. These were shakedowns of people who were not compliant with the BLP.
This is why Barbados needs leaders who know the difference between right and wrong and why severe penalties of abuse of power need to be in place.
Join the Lions Club. It has a much better record of doing social good. The freemasons need to clean house as well but I am afriad like the BLP they will close ranks and deny that anything is wrong.
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Bimbro
January 21, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Centipede, I believe you know, as well as the others here, that what u said above, is bunkum!
However, I�ll give others a chance to express their opinion before returning!
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B.Y
January 21, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Don�t expect lilliputians to know anything important.
People need acceptance, especially those who perceive certain things to be �grand�and �important� and, �worthwhile�. Most of whom don�t even know what they are really delving into. Alas�
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Commenter's name changed by editor - too similar to BFP
January 21, 2008 at 6:54 pm
centipede,
YOU SAID: �You can�t make such a call to Dominica and get the same response. First there is no one reliable to call and secondly - if and when you ever will get your order, no one knows.�
There is an agency in Dominica called DEXIA (Dominica Export Import Agency) which is responsible for that, but how reliable they are I cannot say. They handle the export of agricultural produce in Dominica.
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centipede
January 21, 2008 at 7:07 pm
TY - Commenter�s name changed by editor - too similar to BFP - for that info. However - if I may respectfully ask � what has DEXIA been doing all these years?
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Bajan
January 21, 2008 at 8:02 pm
centipede,
I don�t know much about them myself, but this is their website�
http://www.dexiaexport.com/
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Ken Norville
January 21, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Interesting! Commissioner Darwin Dottin is a member of a fraternity. Perhaps he should state the force�s policy on this.
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Beefcake
January 22, 2008 at 12:34 am
Freemasonry has at its core stated virtues such as charity, fellowship, and contributing to society. In this way, its values are similar to Rotary, Lions, Kiwanis, and Optimists. It is common to find a Freemason that also belongs to one these other organisations.
It is important to note that all of these organisations, in their pledges of association, acknowledge observance of local laws and customs.
In this way, any member, whether they be police officer or not, is still required to uphold the law.
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Victor Callender
January 22, 2008 at 1:18 am
centipede
January 21, 2008 at 4:53 pm
If I may say to Bimbro and some others� Freemasonry is NOT a Secret Society.
A Secret Society is one that is � secret � and no one knows about it.
Everybody knows where freemasons meet and you can go and stand outside and watch and see everybody who comes and goes.
Ain�t nothing secret.
Freemasonry is a PRIVATE society and it�s meetings are open to it�s members only�
Freemasons are not the only ones who have private meetings open to members only� let�s take a look at a few others�
Meetings of the government�s Cabinate.
Meetings of the Board of Statutory Corporations, businesses, clubs�
Meetings of one�s family where only �family members� may be present�
Should I continue to state the obvious or do you know what I�m saying?
Centerpede
It is refreshing to read how common sensed you are, your ability to state the obvious illuminates the foolishness embraced by those who lack knowledge. As A �Prince Hall Freemason� myself, I �ve heard that the Masonic Fraternity is demonic, devil worshippers and all sorts of nonsense. It was said by Einstein �That condemnation without investigation is the height of Inorance.� I know too, that �An intelligent question is one half of wisdom.� Those who would speak half truths about the masonic fraternity, need only know that from King Solomon to the United States founding fathers is where one could find masonic practice. The masonic order is a fraternal order, �Veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols.� Whether or not Commissioner Dottin is masonic is of no particular significance to his professionalism and the performance of his job.
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Bimbro
January 22, 2008 at 2:52 am
I don�t propose to say, too, much about this because doubtless, much of it has been said, already but, KNOWING HUMAN NATURE, are men or women going to join together in ANY society, especially a secretive one, and its not going to be for their particular benefit, to the disadvantage of those who are n�t members?
Obviously, it�s going to be to the detriment, of the rest, however, minor or great! Let�s not fool ourselves, folks!
Ban anything which is likely to pose a threat to the honest and decent functioning of Bajan society!
Who knows if it was n�t the influence of this same organisation which got �our friend� into so much trouble that he�s no longer the PM, today!!!!
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Paradox
January 22, 2008 at 2:57 am
If I am not mistaken, a few years ago the British government either banned or called on those public servants in the Masonic lodge to declare; or would propose legislatation against membership of such organisation. I think it was under Tony Blair�s watch. Promotion depended on which organisation one belonged. Decent citizens were sometimes left on the sidelines.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
The British Prime minister must have been concerned about something. Our democrocy is based on that of the British and should be a warning to others.
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Beefcake
January 22, 2008 at 3:20 am
Masonry as privilege is a mentality that goes back to the 70�s and prior.
Most Freemasons today are very average people.
It is arguable that its popularity is waning and needed to open the doors to average persons for fear of obsolesence.
Rotary has had to change its image too due to changes in society and membership.
Freemasonry is a great social fellowship, and has interesting and informative discussions on world cricket at the end of each meeting.
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Maat
January 22, 2008 at 3:35 am
Beefcake and Victor have their point of view coupled with intimate knowledge of freemasonry, yet to quote that the Founding fathers of the USA were practitioners of masonry is not something to crow about.
Some forces in the USA pervert justice to the point where popular presidents such as JFK can be assassinated in broad daylight and the whole affair can be covered up. Several US presidents are/were Masons and yet nearly every president of that country has at some time led their nation into wars of overt aggression (Korea/Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq) and covert destabilisation (Cuba, Iran/Contra etc).
If Masonry is a power for good and has influence at the highest level, such a history of warfare subterfuge and selfish greed, as exhibited by several US administrations, would not have been written.
Peace
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Victor Callender
January 22, 2008 at 4:02 am
People always look to blame one institution or another for human failings. The fact that countries are destablelized and presidents or prime ministers assassinated has nothing to do with the masonic fraternity. Tell me, will we abolish the local bowling league or cricket club because of the personal friendships derived from those clubs? How about those who benefit from attending Harrison College, Combermere, Harvard, Yale, Columbia University, Oxford, Cambridge, The Wharton School of Businees. Are we going to abolish all of these fine institutions because the people who attend them feel the need to fraternise? Hog wash! Human beings since the begining of time have felt the need to associate with those they�ve felt had the most in common with them. A person�s power in some cases is based on their association. There�s an old saying �Show me a person companions, and I�ll tell you who that person is.� Again, personal accountability for one�s behavior or lack thereof is not a fraternal responsibility but an individual�s.
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Yardbroom
January 22, 2008 at 8:43 am
Paradox
You are not mistaken Judges and Magistrates in England �have� to declare their membership to the Free Masons.
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Gary Cole (aka Tatanka Yotanka)
January 22, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Once a decade or so some writes about the strangle hold freemasonry has on the police and the judiciary.
Our book Boys in the Band was all the evidence you needed.
I think the only thing Barbados can do is follow Britain closely on this, for it is in fact an English import, and you really cant understand freemasonry in barbados without looking to the UK and abroad.
Freemasonry survived in England now that it is banned from Scotland yard and the police, and the necessity for judges declaration. It didnt bring about any toppling of the masons there - in business, trade or government. So why cant we do it and stop listening to these masons who want to use their organization for every little advantage that it gives them against non-masons.
If there were proper investigative bodies in Barbados, they would have discovered as in the uk that almost every serious institutionaled instance of grand corruption was caused by corrupt masons. I say corrupt masons, because there are many good masons, although the religous mumbo jumbo is not my personal cup of tea.
So the debate is purile but as the current prime minister now is a mason, lets see where this debate is going to end - like ever other - in nothing.
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JR
January 22, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Bimbro: �Ban anything which is likely to pose a threat to the honest and decent functioning of Bajan society!�
And wouldn�t you think that attitude, which could construed as autocratic not to mention our right to associate, would force a further underground movement.
You sound like you want to control everything. Maybe you should think about the ramifications of what you are saying, because if you start the slip down that road then all our rights will slowly but surely come slidding down behind.
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JR
January 22, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Sorry, typing to fast �
�which could *be* construed as autocratic *and* not to mention *infringe on* our right to associate�
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Keltruth Corp.
January 22, 2008 at 10:24 pm
My concern with Freemasonry is the gruesome nature of the oaths. I dealt with this in this post:
http://keltruthblog.com/blog/?p=91
Note that no one has disputed the content of this post, which is based on many sources.
Over the years, many have expressed their concerns about �the Lodges�, and I have thought they were crazy. Now that the facts are widely available, I am surprised that there are still some people who are not concerned.
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Bimbro
January 23, 2008 at 6:50 am
JR, living a decent, life is all about having, at least, some, of our rights, infringed. That�s what happens everytime, ANY, law is passed. The point is not to take it too, far!
However, the right to congregate in secret-lodges is one which I�d be happy to ban and to forfeit!
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jimbo
January 23, 2008 at 11:20 pm
what is this freemason thing? does it mean i can get a mason to build my house free?
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eureka
January 24, 2008 at 12:28 am
The adherents of Freemasonry are very defensive when their order is exposed to public scrutiny. I myself was affiliated to a Scottish Mechanic Lodge during the 1970s and based on subsequent information, opted to sever all ties with lodges period.
I might add that I had also joined the Rosicrucian Grand Lodge by mail but after reading through the initiation ritual opted not to carry it out. I had an experience which a friend of mine and a current politician (I wouldn�t call his name) also had with the Rosicrucians that was rather eerie. All of our lesson materials miraculously disappeared even though in his case, he told me his were locked up in his drawer and only he had a key for that same drawer.
For those who want more information on lodges go to Google website and type into the search function any of these names: �illuminati�, �skull and bones� �bohemian grove� and of course �freemasonry� and you will find some information that would curdle your blood.
You can also search for the Jesuits and the Knight Templars too
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Johnnie Too Bad
January 24, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Is it true that Darwin is a grand master in his lodge? Is this why his job is so secured and what about the changes made to his service record to get the top job?
Seems to me that instead of we the bloggers setting the agenda for the purposeful reconstruction of our country, we are now dealing with issues like the turn up trousers leg brigade. I say let Darwin go and grow his cabbages and enjoy his part pension.
Johnnietoobad.
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Johnnie Too Bad
January 24, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Steady on Victor Callender, let me say I went to a number of the institutions you mentioned and I cant seem to hold down a job, due to my outspoken disposition, Lets get this straight Mr. Callender it is much more than where you went to school or your alma mater, it is also about whether you are prepared to tow the line or not. Hence why OSA was able to do the things he did for 14 years, so just be careful, for it is not quite as simple as you make out. There are things like shared values, shared goals, desire to control others, and to use an old boys network to get seriously rich, to even evade justice and a host of other things I could tell you about.
Johnnietoobad.
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THE CHURCH
January 24, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Mr. Bimbro i must tell you that the church is one of the biggest fraternities that their is.Just take a look at the Catholics, where ever you go in the world their will always be secret socities and secret societies are who is responsible for how the world is run. some of the greatest leaders were fraternalist. And fraternalism is not only in the Police force, it is in the Church, the Army, the Private Sector, the Public Sector. So just live wid it and deal wid it you cannot get rid of them the london police force could not and you cannot get rid of them here either.
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Victor Callender
January 25, 2008 at 1:29 am
Certain Barbadians over the years have enjoyed privilege premised on the school they attended or back in colonial days �The Paper Bag Complex.� If for example there are those who would argue that scholastic and or fraternal acquaintance has nothing to do with one�s access to better jobs; You�ll find that your argument is fatally flawed. No one spends Fifty thousand US dollars a year over a four year period to send their child to Harvard University, because it offer�s no benefit to that child. Equally no one joins a fraternal order simply because of altruism. We Homo Sapiens are motivated by an innate sense to succeed, success is often time linked to the power of association, be it fraternal or scholastic.
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eureka
January 25, 2008 at 5:23 am
@Victor Chandler
�No one spends Fifty thousand US dollars a year over a four year period to send their child to Harvard University, because it offer�s no benefit to that child.�
Sir, I am not sure if you are aware that the university you mentioned along with another one called Yale have chapters of the �skull and bones� lodge on their respective premises and certain students are chosen for membership and initiation into these secret societies right there in the university.
The current president of the US is a bonesman; so is his father and also his previous opponent in the democratic party, John Kerry. It is said that George Bush senior was inducted ino the skull and bones order when he attended Yale University. The Queen and the royal family are members of the illuminati secret order; which according to what I read is the head secret order above freemasonry and all the others.
The long and short of it is: secret societies have ruled this world from time immemorial and if we equate that statement to the biblical one which says that satan is the ruler of this world. I think you should have very little difficulty in connecting the rest of the dots.
I have spoken to some personal friends of mine who are freemasons and I warned them of the satanic connection but so far they haven�t taken me serious but I want to leave this one with you. There is an old saying: �the road to hell is paved with good intentions�. Not all of the satanic cults are perceptively evil; many of them provide an innocent and enticing front in order to attract the unsuspecting but it is only when you become deeply engulfed within is that the evil side is revealed.
Be warned. Fortunately, there is nothing called �Hotel California�. You can sever ties with any organization as long as you are serious about doing so.
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Rumplestilskin
January 25, 2008 at 10:12 am
Victor, what you say is based on schooling and fraterntities is obvious analysis and commonsense, but that may be too much for some.
Eureka says �illuminati secret order; which according to what I read is the head secret order above freemasonry and all the others� now following Victor�s statement, allegedly for which one �breeding ground� is Oxford University, where Rupert Murdoch the media kingpin attended, as well as many powerful others.
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Rumplestilskin
January 25, 2008 at 10:13 am
Should be: Victor, what you say about schooling and fraternities is obvious analysis and commonsense, but that may be too much for some.
Forgive, it is early in the am.
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Rumplestilskin
January 25, 2008 at 10:16 am
And developing a possibility, is his �media control� by personal interest and clever business only, or by other design?
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lexicon
January 25, 2008 at 5:13 pm
hi all, i just wanted to say i think that is a bunch of horse manuer. the masons are a community service group, they raise money and we have a cancer car here where they drive people to their chemo and such for free. what evil bastards. and what about the shriners watch out next time you are at a parade avert your eyes or the men on mini mororcycles that have funny hats on may steal your soul
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knowledge
January 25, 2008 at 7:07 pm
I find the comments here quite interesting as there are many different clubs and associations worldwide who do ask that the business of the day remain with memebrs only this is not just related to masons
the interpratation that they guard something evil was started by and still is mainly an issue with organized religions which dislike the so called secrecy of the said fraternity although most of them have secret divisions within them as well and in some cases for sound reasons in others lets examine how many children have been abused by persons within positions in such religious groups then show me where masons have been discovered guilty of the same
my point is a simple one no group order fraternity or orginisation can be completely safe from all who may do harm using them its the world we live in but in my experience i have seen what shriners hospitals do what their canacer car projects worldwide do and have to say i have seen nothing bad done by them i cant say the same for the others mentioned and i still beleive there are very good people trying to make the world a better place in all of them witch hunts have never served any good purpose as we all know
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eureka
January 25, 2008 at 10:38 pm
I want to make myself abundantly clear. I have no axe to grind with any person who wishes to either join freemasonry or who already a member wishes to continue being a freemason.
At the end of the day, each of us has to account for the life we live. We can�t blame it on the other fellow that had not for him, things would have been different. We have to take responsibility for our own actions. It is called �assuming responsibility for one�s actions.�
All I was merely trying to point out that there is another side to this freemason thing. It is like the flipside of the coin. For all those who wish to sign up, be my guest.
All I was trying to give to the folks, at least the ones who were not aware of the other side, the place to conduct the search.
And as I said before, you can google �skull and bones�, illuminati etc and you will find a wealth of information concerning the lodges.
I must leave this one with you though. My late stepfather, (God rest him in his grave), told me of an incident that happened to him with the lodge and that also helped turned my mind from them.
He told me that everything was fine until he was promoted to the Grand Lodge. He said that this night in question, after the lodge was opened and they got down to business, the worthy master informed the members that �and in his own words: �from here onwards, you can serve the devil.� He told me when he left the lodge that night, he never went anywhere near it since then.
I rest my case.
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Bimbro
January 26, 2008 at 7:16 am
jimbo
January 23,
2008 at 11:20 pm
what is this freemason thing? does it mean i can get a mason to build my house free?
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jimbo, the answer is, �yes�!
Now, bugger-off & let serious people get on with the country�s business!
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THE CHURCH, because something already, exists, is no persuasive argument for its continued, existense! I say, �BAN IT�!!
Do you folks not think that Bim has enough to worry about to have to also, cope with the possible, eroding effects of free-masonry? We�re trying to build a free and fair society, here not one which is encumbered by fear - of any sort!!!!
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Bimbro
January 26, 2008 at 7:26 am
They�re only one or two reasons why people join the Freemasons. 1. is to make themselves seem more important than the others, around them, and
2. is to gain some sort of advantage from so doing, inevitably to the disadvantage of some other person or group of people!
If the reason is �1', then I�m sorry u feel the need for this. There must be something, deeper, wrong with you, and if �2', well that is completely unacceptable, also!
End result, they�re an unnecessary and pernicious evil and SHOULD BE BANNED!!!!
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Victor R Callender
January 26, 2008 at 8:50 am
Eureka the �Salem witch trials� were a fabrication of people alledged to have been witches in their day. Nonetheless, those misconceptions prevailed back then as they do today. Folks are always looking to scapegoat things that they know very little about. In Barbados at the Lodge School in St John, an induction ceremony is performed on entering that school. When an individual is awarded a Nobel Prize certain pomp and ceremony is performed. These ceremonies are all masked in some manner befitting fraternal investiture. If in some masonic halls people were being tortured, mutilated or raped I would argue in the affirmative relative to ending these time honored fraternal bonds. If a lodge meeting is held every saturday and a group of guys want to meet and do whatever, what�s the problem? You all don�t complain about the absurdity and wickedness of christianity, yet you christians meet and plot wickedness every sunday morning at eleven o�clock. The most confuse time on the planet is eleven o�clock on sunday morning, when the christian hypocrites and parasites dressed in their sunday finest deceive themselves about their faith in god. No one makes an argument to abolish the Anglican Church Fraternity, or the Methodist Church Fraternity. I am not sure why Commisioner Dottin or any other lodge member of any fraternal order is subjected to this scrutiny. The chrisitian faith and organise religion has exacted more misery on this world and people of afri(K)an decent in particular than any other fraternal organization in the history of mankind. Don�t blame fraternities for the lucerferian policies in this world, start with religion and christians.
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Temohpab
January 26, 2008 at 11:21 am
Freemasonry is an insidious cancer that has as a weapon of control, been utilised by the world�s elite classes to exert control over the massses. At it�s core the veneration and worship of the fallen angelic being LUCIFER as a god.
Throughout its shady history the masonic order and its numerous offshoots such as the ROSICRUCIANS, SKULL AND BONES, KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, KNIGHTS OF MALTA and the many other tangents, thrived on secrecy, deception, murder, and its tendrils are deeply rooted in such organizations as the C.I.A., MI6 and scores of other spy agencies which use assassination as a means of political and social change
Former Confederate general Albert Pike (after whom Pike�s Peak is named), was a Masonic Grandmaster during Abe Lincoln�s presidency, and authored the book �MORALS AND DOGMA� which is the de facto �masonic bible� (but there�s nothing biblical about this unholy bunch folks). Pike many historians presume had complicity in Lincoln�s assassination, for John Wilkes Booth his killer was a free mason.
There is absolutely nothing �free� about this and it�s offshoot secret societies, for only those who reach the higher degrees, comprehend that in exchange for swearing their oaths, and seeming prosperity in life, their very souls are enslaved to BAPHOMET (aka LUCIFER/SATAN/DEVIL), much in the same way as the fictional Dr.Faustus was to the demon Mephistopheles.
Orville Durant is a former Barbados police Commissioner and he himself is a freemason and can be seen in photos displayed on the Barbados masonic website, as is Judge Elliott Belgrave, Judge Lionel Greenidge, Superintendent Vincent Springer was up to recently Grandmaster of the �THISTLE LODGE� and the beat goes on.
In 1989 as a young and promising member of the R.B.P.F., I was approached and a question posed to me by then 32 nd degree mason Percy Hinds, who then offered to initiate me into the �sublime mysteries� of scottish rite freemasonry�. Little did Percy know that from the age of 13 years old having read an article about freemasonry in the Barbadog Advocate newspaper, I was leaps and bounds ahead where my knowledge of the order was concerned. He boasted during our lengthy conversation at his funeral hame on Belmont Road that he orchestrated the funerals of two Barbados Governors General, Sir Winston Scott and Sir Deighton Ward, both former Freemasons.
I have close family, friends and workmates who are knee-deep in this order but I choose to stay clear and seek truth via other means other than surrendering my freedom to this diabolical bunch whose origins are in the rebel Nimrod, that mighty hunter who was opposed to the Supreme Being and chose to worship a creature (Lucifer) rather than the True Creator.
My Username above is BAPHOMET spelled backwards, surely the masons reading this can appreciate its deep symbolism. �MAHABONE!!!!
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Victor R Callender
January 26, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Temohpab, what a beautifully written piece. It is said �A thing of beauty is forever a joy.� Temohpab
you have researched, read and written concisely and intelligently. I enjoy this blog because I can show off to the world the tremendous resources of Barbados, the intelligence of its people. Those who contribute to this blog educate and inform and as a Barbadian I am truly grateful to all of you for your patience with me and your teaching of me, thank you all. The masonic fraternity in the USA was started by Prince Hall a Barbadian who was born around 1748. His father Thomas Price Hall was an Enghlishman and his mother a free colored woman of French extraction (Notice no name given for his mother). He left Barbados for Boston, Massachusetts in 1765. Prince Hall encouraged John Hancock to be allowed to join the Continental Army, and was one of the few blacks who fought at Bunker Hill, in the American War of Independence. Prince Hall was inclined to religion and later became a minister in the African Methodist Episcopal Church(AME). Free Masonry among blacks began during the revolutionary war, so Prince Hall and fourteen other free black men formed Lodge #441 on March 6, 1775. From that point forward Free and Accepted Masons F&AM were to be global. I would not argue that there are not elements of wickedness in the masonic fraternity, I would however say that like life, the masonic fraternity is checkered with good and evil. If the masonic fraternity is Lucerferian, then its Lucerferian roots for F&AM are linked directly to our Island home.
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George
January 26, 2008 at 11:24 pm
For your information on FreeMasonry go to this website http://www.nymasons.org/cms/whatisamason
or just type in �What is a manson� this will clear the Myth that so many people have about Masonry
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George
January 26, 2008 at 11:51 pm
This one is for LEXICON, The horse manure that Masonry pump into the 22 of the best Hospitals in North America with FREE care for any child with any infliction from any part of the world and Millions of �s in the best Hospitals in England and also into medical research. Do not knock Masonry, look into these facts, check the websites.
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 1:22 am
To Victor Callender:
If one is to listen to your argument and blame christianity,then the fraternity by extention are also to be blamed�.seeing there are one and the same.
Dont the fraternities claim to be christians also?
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 1:34 am
I laughed at a friend of mine who told me of an owl that is worshiped by some fraternities.
That was until he produced a US$1 bill and showed me the owl in the top right hand corner.It is as he said��..hidden in plain sight.
The he folded a US$20 bill and showed me the exact picture of the twin towers burning,then the pic of the pentagon.on doing a little googling,what I read is so shocking to me that it is very hard for even a die hard skeptic like myself not to be intrigued.
I am still reading and researching but to me ,something sinister is out there.
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lexicon
January 27, 2008 at 2:32 am
george, you misinterpreted my comment I was stating the people bashing it are idiots my comments were dripping with sarcasm so to speak. i am very supportive of the masons i am in the middle of petitioning for my apprenticeship. I have a very lenghty family history in the masons aswell from cousins to grandfathers to my great great grandfather. i think people who bash it either don�t understand it or don�t want to understand it or they are just plain ignorant. they may be upset because we have secrets.
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Keltruth Corp.
January 27, 2008 at 3:11 am
In America, the Freemasons have raised a great deal for charity. Does anyone know which charities they support in Barbados?
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Bimbro
January 27, 2008 at 6:22 am
Keltruth Corp.
January 27, 2008 at 3:11 am
In America, the Freemasons have raised a great deal for charity. Does anyone know which charities they support in Barbados?
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Secrecy in public life, should n�t be encouraged, anywhere!!!! That�s why we�re in favour of integrity legislation, in case you had n�t noticed!!!!
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eureka
January 27, 2008 at 12:04 pm
My advice to Mr Victor Callender is to take a step back and look critically at Freemasonry and lodges period. It has been said and it is a fact that when you are in the game you don�t always see the plays; it is the guy who is watching from the side that has a better and bigger picture.
To all the readers of this site, I say to you not to take my word but do the research for yourself. Google �illuminati� �skull and bones� or �freemasonry� and you will find a wealth of information pertaining to, (information that is not so forthcoming from regular media sources), these lodges.
There is a secret location in some redwood forest in america where many world leaders including the US president, go and worship a stone owl. There is a website run by a man name Alex Jones called �Prison Planet� that speaks about lots of these hidden and nefarious practices.
It doesn�t take a Solomon to see that this world is being stage-managed by an evil cult. All of these unnecessary wars being fought; the fake war on terror for example in order for the US to gain control over the Middle Eastern oil-producing countries etc. Only the return of Christ will put an end to this evil.
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 1:50 pm
To Eureka:
That would be the Bohemian Grove which is 75 miles outside of California.
There ,the world leaders,top business men,top media executives etc meet for a satanic ritual every year.
the problem the lodges and secret societies are now facing is quite similar to what we have just witnessed here in Barbados�..the power of the internet blogs!!
When Alex Jones first broke the story ,he was criticized in the main stream media as a paranoid journalist.This lead him to do the hidden camera expose,which lead to the filming of the documentary.
Had it not been for his internet blogs and websites as opposed to the mainstream media, we would still be ignorant to the facts.
The media and the powerful people who controls them are finding it hard to keep their secrets in this age of technology,That is why people like VC can come here and try their hardest to make people look stupid.
Anyone with half a brain and internet access can do their own research and come to their own conclusions based on the evidence available to them now.
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Thank god for GOOGLE!!
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Victor Callender wrote:
The masonic fraternity in the USA was started by Prince Hall a Barbadian who was born around 1748.
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Research shows:
Prince Hall�s birthdate and birthplace are subject to conjecture. He may have been born in either England, Massachusetts or Barbados, and the year 1738 is now generally agreed on though not certain. Narrative stories of Prince Hall�s birth and youth are unsubstantiated and appear to have been invented by their authors (particularly William H. Grimshaw in 1903).
Can someone show the facts or proof.
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Bimbro
January 27, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Victor Callender wrote:
The masonic fraternity in the USA was started by Prince Hall a Barbadian who was born around 1748.
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Bajan, or not, HE WAS MISTAKEN!!!!
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knowledge
January 27, 2008 at 7:11 pm
A small bit of research showed Prince Hall was not the one who started masons in America he was a member of a Boston lodge then started his own with others of African heritage which eventually became known as Prince Hall masonry apparently out of respect for his efforts it should be noted he did this with support of the Grand Lodge of England and was a very respected person within his fraternity and had support from many in his endeavour
response to anonymous and bimbro
bohemian grove and skull and bones are not part of mason orginisations although linked due to being secretive do some research you will find there is another place they meet as well in North America
the issues are about politics bimbro not fraternities the groups that control this are more likely teh council on foreign relations ,bilderbergs,tri-lateral commision and a few more and yes they may have masons among them but surely some catholics and mormons as well
I still highly doubt everyone in any of these groups
is evil and after world control
If you really want to look at conspiracy theories theres better ones out there and im sure youll find ways to expand your ban or imprison list looking
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Knowledge says:
bohemian grove and skull and bones are not part of mason orginisations although linked due to being secretive �.
With all due respect��research has proven that all these groups are in fact off shoots of one.However I would rather call these local chapters more like�malevolent societies.
I find it strange that the worlds most influential people can come together at a ritual,worshiping an owl and giving sacrifices (albeit mock) to a pagan god.
Why is it that when anyone questions the Status quo��the only reply is conspiracy theories?
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 7:40 pm
What some on this blog fails to realise ,is that no one really gives a damn who joins a lodge.
What concerns me though is the apparent manipulation of the system for some in this �club�.
Power ,greed corruption etc are all found in man but to have an organisation who claim brotherhood before any other or any of their rules (which can be found with a little research),really makes me concerned.
Let us think about it for a while�..If any of us can do wrong and get away with it�.wouldn�t you?
On paper �these things look lovely and possible�..then comes the human element.
On paper Communism looks so great as a way of life��..then came the dictators and destroyed everything for personal gain.
Dont you think that this was what Prince Hall wanted?
He must be rolling in his grave .
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ILLUMINATOR
January 27, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Beautifully said Anon , how can we NOT be concerned with the implications of persons in high office and places of authority being involved in Masonic Fraternities and activities. A major worry of mine is that many Masons are innocent of the intentions of the real �Princes� of Freemasonry of of which there a small elite few .
As I have quoted from Albert Pikes�s book �Morals and Dogmas � , the majority of Masons are INTENTIONALLY misled about the precepts and rituals of Freemasonry. Now why is that , and clearly stated by a noted Freemasonic elder.
Something is defnitely not right here , I don�t care how outwardly noble it may seem.
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Anonymous
January 27, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Thank you Illuminator..for shedding some light on this matter (yes�pun intended).Funny but when I spelled your name,spell check wants to know if I meant to spell Illuminati .
Seriously though.Masons get on the defensive about something they themselves have no understanding of.
I have to ask myself ,how can some of the most educated people be so blind to the facts.Can any of them question their leaders?.Or maybe the opportunity to get what ever crumbs of power that comes off the table,is enough for them to sell their souls.
I stand by my reasoning that if people in high positions,who sometimes makes decisions that can change our way of life are immune to any law other than their own secret ones �..then there is every reason for concern.
This ,to me is the foundation for corruption,greed and power.
And please dont tell me that there are ordinary people in these fraternities like plumbers,electricians,carpenters etc.because anyone can see that they are just sheep.
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Victor Callender
January 27, 2008 at 11:32 pm
As I peruse the contributions to this blog relative to the masonic fraternity, what sticks out is a plethora of information about the supposed �Lucerferian� dogma of the masonic fraternity. In previous conversations I allowed myself to look at the pros and cons of the masonic fraternity, after all what if those proponents for abolishing the masonic fraternity were right? What I found out here, is that �Any person convinced againgst their will, is of the same opinion still.� Those of you contributing to this blog have asked in some prior conversations that I look at masonry not through �Jaundiced Eyes.� Nontheless, some of you view organized religion as if its perfect. I�m struggling with those of you who seem to be hypocritical, as it relates to christianity not taking on the mantle of responsibility for wrong doing and ineptitude, pretty much like you say masonry does. Help me to understand, why is masonry evil and christianity which is responsible for the largest mass murder in history not evil. Any organization is only as good as its people, masonry included. Furthermore, what could be more secretive than governments all over the world. Am I to believe that an argument can be made to abolish government and have anarchy? We as human cannot be made knowledgeable in every instance about every thing, some things in life are based on a �Need-to-Know Basis.� Simple, if you want to know about the goings on in a masonic lodge, join one. But then again some will contend most governments are secret societies, the discussion never ends.
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Anonymous
January 28, 2008 at 12:18 am
Victor Callender:
For the last time,most of �well I for one could care less about a lodge,fraternity,masons etc.
Where my concerns lie is the corruption and criminal wrong doings perpetrated by those members, who, by association continue to get slaps on their wrists while the average citizen pays the ultimate price .Before you or any one jump on the �prove it� bandwagon,let me state that I have witnessed it first hand in our law courts and in our police stations.
I DO NOT BELIEVE in religion as to me it is another form of slavery.So to ask me of Christianity would be a waste of our time.
What you fail to realise is that ,as a people we do not need to know everything ,there will always be some element of secrecy involved in the running of a country.What we dont need is a selected group of people to be held in the highest esteem and given a free pass for corruption and wrong doing.
What ever benefits they get from their �clubs� so be it but when it comes to the law ..let it be fair to all citizens.
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ILLUMINATOR
January 28, 2008 at 1:03 am
I concur with Anon yet again as I am also non-religious and would agree with Victor Callender that religion has been the source of much pain and suffering for mankind throughout the ages.
However , another aspect I would like to mention is that once the Lodge has �helped� or facilitated the Mason to acheive the lofty heights of high office . Whom will he feel indebted to , the electorate or his Lodge brothers and �Masters� . I believe the Fraternal heirachy will win out which is the essence of the problem to me. I feel this is very dangerous as entities with unclear agendas will now have a direct link to our elected leaders.
Call me paranoid but doesn�t this seem like something that requires attention and address.
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eureka
January 28, 2008 at 2:00 am
Mr Callender, I am fairly sure that you are a man of high morals, integrity and uprightness but you cannot dispute the fact that for every system, there needs to be acountability and �checks and balances� in order for it to be perceived as equitable to all and sundry. I don�t think you need to be reminded of the� �justice must be seen to be done� phrase.
I certainly take your point with regard to Christianity and many of the other critics of freemasonry also do. No one is saying that christianity is �holier than thou�, but at least, it can be easier held up to public scrutiny than can be freemasonry.
As far as public perception goes, even if it is not correct, freemasons get the better of ordinary citizens with respect to a whole range of issues such as lawsuits, jobs etc etc. The difficulty is that it is far more difficult for the freemason to prove his innocence if the above claim is untrue.
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knowledge
January 28, 2008 at 5:36 am
anon skull and bones and bohemian grove are not part of the freemason organization there may be some who are members of both but those 2 rginizations are extremely exclusive by what means or ends they exist is certainly strange as i have studied both and do honestly find little reason or principals for why they are there but i do find all these groups interesting in ways and am simply a hobby student of fraternal groups like these as well as many other so called esoteric groups clubs and fraternities
in years past freemasonry was very much exclusive and certainly had a strong tie to people of power in industry government and religion but if you look you would see that is not such any longer in fact research shows they have been ona steady decline since the late 1950s worldwide
skull and bones is a university fraternity from strictly upper class schools and as i said bohemian grove is surrounded in many starnge events with littel explanation about what it soes or why it exists maybe it is simply a wealthy persons private free for all who knows
and to add some from a few other posters yes there is secret divisions within most religions and governments and yes its about what people do with them not the fact any of them exist that should be the issue
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George
January 29, 2008 at 12:10 am
Forgive me LEXICON for misreading you.
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Victor Callender
January 29, 2008 at 1:10 am
I am in your intellectual spaces as we all dialogue about the masonic fraternity and the various other fraternal organizations sworn to secrecy. I would be remiss however if I did not bring into view the Catholic Church. Imagine a church in which Peter one of Jesus� twelve was dubbed �The Pillar� by the apostle Paul, as you all know he denied christ. My point is Peter was the first Pope of the Roman Catholic church, that church was founded by a man who denied christ and nonetheless throughout the centuries many have followed his teachings. Now envision this, where can any of you tell me of another institution that is more cloaked in secrecy than the Catholic Church. Throughout the centuries the catholic church has used secrecy and religion to rape, pillage and be demagogues of the people of South America, Afri(k)a, Asia and Europe. Yet, that faith has prospered monetarily and socially among the people on this planet. I am treated to the excellent discussion posted here on this blog, but I believe that some of you out there who take that holy catholic sacrament, might find that your religious beliefs are also immersed in secrecy.
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knowledge
January 29, 2008 at 4:56 am
victor
you make an excellent point as i stated most religion has elements of secrecy within them as well and in my initial post i stated the majority of memebers in any club fraternity or church i beleive do so for what they percieve as good
i have studied most of these in depth and truly have found little about almost any fraternity masons included taht would lead anyone to beleive they have an underground movement
that is a threat to anyone in fact they have no political wing that i can find and thats where i usually start as most religions either publicly voice political support or have groups within that are political wings
and to put in perspective in some ways read the released papal announcements you will find catholics public statements that decry freemasonry clearly written although i have yet to find any masonic written statement derogotory to any religion or race
as ive said i study all these things from an interest of the history and workings surrounding them and as far as freemasons go most of what i found does little to convince me they are evil , they do beleive in some strange old system of rituals within meetings but nothing truly scary just somewhat dated and it seems they enjoy the fact it distinguishes them from others somewhat
conspiracy theory can be applied almost anywhere about anything but more often than not all the bad events and such issues usually come down to people who crave power or are ruled by greed whether in fraternity or government or business by and large members of all these groups chuches masons lion eagles and many others do no harm
and contribute much good to all if we choose to look at that veiw
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Victor Callender
January 29, 2008 at 6:18 am
I do not mean to insult most of you, or assume that you may not be familiar with antiquity. My reason for spelling AFRI(K)A with a �K� is because of the Kemetian and Kushite links to our afri(K)aness. Those who came and conquered, wanted to remove Kemet from Afri(K)a, as if to say that modern Egypt is on some continent other than the mother land. We must all remember that �A Conquering Heart can hold no love.� Kemet only became modern Egypt after miscegenation. In fact modern day Judaism was the offspring of the kemetian faith. The �Metu Neter� or �Words of God� are the text in antiquity from which Judaism was born. The current land of I-S-(ISIS)Ra-(The SON)-EL(Elohim)of God.
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lexicon
January 29, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I think you all should look up the history chanels documentary on freemasonry on google video it it very informative. but i know all you anti masons on here who are the leading authority of anti masonry LOL. would just say it was propoganda from the powerful masins in the media world�
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knowledge
February 2, 2008 at 8:02 am
I am a bit surprised was hoping for a bit more exchanges here seems as soon as someone tries to put issues out especially religion and secret fraternities its alway very polarized too bad lots of interesting things to learn if all want to participate hope it picks back up
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Anonymous
February 22, 2008 at 3:01 pm
y r u ppl so down pressin with things that u al dont kno bout. it is o a bad thing that every1cry down. Look u all goes church an listen2 wa the priest says,but wen it is over what does the same priest do, do any of u all knows? if the same priest belongs 2the same FREEMASONRY that u all r cryin down r u goin2stop goin church ?r u all goin2cry down that church for havin a freemason priest preachin u? an really if the same priest is a grandmaster in the lodge what will u do? it is a good thing wen ppl kno for they self instead a listenin2 wa there aint kno bout. FOOD FA THOUGHT. WHERE DOES THE PRIEST GET HIS KNOWLEDGE R LIGHT FROM? AN IF UR ANSWER IS FROM BOOKS U ALL D A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE R LIGHT IN UR LIFE.
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Glick
February 22, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Can you say that again in English please?
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CEM
June 10, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Ignorance. Lack of the willingness to properly research. The inability to learn the truth. Emotional leaning. Fear. Financial gain through secrecy.
These are all things which prevent the truth about freemasonry/illuminati activities to come to light. All I can say to you out there who are seeking the truth about this is to do what I did: read, ask questions and be as quiet about it as you can. Mine has been a years-long quest, and while I have many answers and will NEVER join a lodge, the quest in not nearly over, as I�m finding out more about the masonic workings (political, religious) of this world every day.
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yve
August 26, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Mr. Callender�sir�I am but a novest..to this so called�society�fraternity if you will�.you seem to know so much�I have always wanted to know ..if this is soooooooooo secret�why do blabber mouths like my cousin in it????
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